gantry tube – CNC Router Info https://cncrouterinfo.com Fri, 11 Nov 2022 08:41:04 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 https://cncrouterinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/favicon.webp gantry tube – CNC Router Info https://cncrouterinfo.com 32 32 210092132 Mightymill – Build log #1 -professional diy CNC router https://cncrouterinfo.com/news/mightymill-build-log-1-professional-diy-cnc-router-2/ https://cncrouterinfo.com/news/mightymill-build-log-1-professional-diy-cnc-router-2/#respond Wed, 05 Oct 2022 13:40:03 +0000 https://cncrouterinfo.com/?p=4023 The Mightymill is the name I gave my professional DIY cnc router build that I’m working on. It features IHSV57 servo motors, BT30 ATC CNC spindle, Durfill polymer concrete filling and more.

Mightymill cnc router

My build has finally begun and in this post I will take you on the building journey.

The machine frame

My machine frame is built out of 120x120x4mm thick steel tubing. I chose this size as I could get it relatively cheaply. It is massive overkill, however. As my shed only has a small door it needed to be able to come apart easily so I opted for various bolted connections instead of welding it fully (which would have been much and much easier).

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Rough fit-up of pre-welded cnc frame components

I added some extra supports for the machine bed which is not shown in the image above.

For painting I opted for Nelfamar Vinyl Plus which as a marine grade vinyl paint. I used this is various outside based projects before and it is easy to use, durable and quite affordable. The color I opted for is RAL3002 “Kern red”.

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Machine frame after painting

Concrete time

I wanted to take advantage of the vibration dampening properties of filling the machine frame with polymer concrete such as UHPC or Durfill. I describe the workings of that in this post here.

As Durfill is relatively expensive when you use it in low quantities I opted for using off-the-shelf pre-mixed concrete from the local Hornbach which at 2.75 EUR per 25kg bag is a steal. I added Moertelshop’s Flup4 to it to enhance its properties.

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Filling side-supports with ~40kg of UHPC concrete
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One support leg is approximately 80kg of concrete. The total weight of one leg is about 120kg

To cover the bolts I added grease to them and tighten them to the steel base. After semi-drying the concrete they were removed. I still need to do one of the steel legs. When I have some time in the coming weeks I’ll proceed with it.

Aluminium extrusion

For the machine itself, I used 80x80mm aluminum extrusion for the Y axis and 120x120mm extrusion for the X axis. The gantry risers are also 120x120mm aluminum t-slot profile.

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120×120 aluminium extrusion for the grantry and risers, 80×80 t-slot extrusion for the y-axis.

Again to enhance it’s stiffness and vibration dampening properties I have filled these with UHPC polymer concrete. The specific product I used is Durfill by Durcrete.

It performs better than regular concrete or run-of-the-mill UHPC. As the volume for these aluminum extrusions is limited I chose the more expensive but better-performing Durfill product.

Polymer concrete time – Durfill

Durfill expands a little to ensure a good hold on the containing material. To ensure a clean mounting surface a spacer was created to prevent it from expanding past the edge.

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Spacer created out of regular garden sand

Afterwards the spacer can just be washed out by washing it out with water. This method is extremely simple but works well.

With the Durfill, I just followed the mixing instructions and poured it into the aluminum extrusion. Whatever was spilled on the side, just wash it off with the garden hose.

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Filling aluminium extrusion with Durfill

After drying, the washed out spacers of the riser tubes look like this:

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I did some video recording during this process. I’ll be uploading that somewhere in the coming weeks on my youtube channel.

The gantry tubes etc have also dried at this point.The weight of the table frame is about 400kg after filling it with concrete and mounting it togther.

Mounting and adjusting the Linear guides

For my design I utilized Sorotec Blue‘s HGR20 rails with P – precision class and P1 preload.

One of the first things I had to do was to create an adapter in order to allow two HGW20CC carriages and my dial indicator to be mounted to it. With a hole in the middle to tighten the t-slot nut and bolt. If you are interested in the drawing of this just hit me up on Discord.

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Linear rail alignment adapter

After finishing this on my HBM BF25 mill (glorified drill press) I mounted it on my Y axis rail.

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Rail alignment adapter
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0.01 mm resolution dial indicator20$ aliexpress
Magnetic dial indicator base stand15$ aliexpress

Buy these t-slot nuts!

I used the regular “twist and turn” t-slot nuts before and they are… very bad for this application. After switching to the model on the right all my adjustment issues went away. I was able to align the whole rail in just a few minutes instead of an hour of tinkering. Do not cheap out on your (t-slot) nuts!

10PCS M3 M4 M5 M6 M8 M10 T Block Square Nuts T Track Sliding Hammer Nut T Nut nf

After using the premium of style of t-nuts the adjustment went swiftly.

Video of the linear alignment

[Gantry tube] I was able to align it within 2um with ease (relative angle)

I aligned the distance between the blocks to about 10um. This took about 15 minutes of work. Good enough for me 🙂

Conclusion – Mightymill build Part #1

I was able to make a good amount of progress so far. The next step is starting with the Z-axis and getting that going. Make sure to subscribe to the newsletter to make sure you don’t miss any updates.

Feel free to reach out to me on discord

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What size does my gantry tube need to be for a DIY CNC https://cncrouterinfo.com/article/what-size-does-my-gantry-tube-need-to-be-for-a-diy-cnc/ https://cncrouterinfo.com/article/what-size-does-my-gantry-tube-need-to-be-for-a-diy-cnc/#comments Wed, 14 Sep 2022 15:39:31 +0000 https://cncrouterinfo.com/?p=404 This is a simple and very quick post regarding gantry tube sizing.

During milling conditions you do not want your gantry tube to deflect more than 0.1mm. If you deflect more you can expect issues such as chatter, bad surface finish etc.

Note: this is an oversimplification of the calculations needed. As there are moment forces etc. This is a simple calculation for DIY CNC projects such as the PrintNC to get an indication of required gantry tube size.

How do I calculate that?

you can actually calculate milling forces with a tool such as Millalyzer. But for now that is too complicated. For milling forces on DIY cnc’s it is safe to assume 100N (10kg) load. During this calculation we will assume the worst case situation thus the load being at the middle of the gantry. This is called “midspan-load”.

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Midspan load representation

Resource #1 Moment of inertia calculator

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SkyCiv Moment of Inertia Calculator

With this calculator you calculate the moment of inertia values for your grantry tube. This is only based on it’s dimensions, not its material.

I do these calculations in centimeters (CM) to prevent further unit changes when doing the beam deflection calculation. In the above example I use a hollow rectangular tube with the size of 100x100x8 mm

Resource #2 Beam deflection calculator

With the beam deflection calculator you can check what the mid-point deflection is for a given tube / force.

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Beam deflection calculator

The inputs of this specific example is a 1600mm long gantry tube (unsupported length) , 100N downward force, 200GPa (steel) modulus of elasticity

and 47 cm^4 of moment of inertia coming from the Skyciv moment of inertia calculator above.

Note: When you change your gantry tube dimension, you will get a different Ix value.

Adjust the Span length, beam size according to your specification

When the maximum deflection <= 0.1mm , you will be ok for DIY CNC applications.

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